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Untidy state (4)

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<span class="explanation-format__ClueExplanation">'<span class="explanation-format__original">untidy state</span>' is the definition.<br/ ><span class="explanation-format__explanation">(state of being untidy)</span><br/ ><br/ >This is the entire clue.<br/ ></span>

(Other definitions for mess that I've seen before include "State of confusion or untidiness" , "Communal dining room" , "Service dining-area" , "Army canteen - shambles" , "Military dining room" .)

I've seen this clue in The Telegraph, The Star Tribune, the Newsday.com, the Newsday, The Sun, the Universal, The Times, the King Feature Syndicate, the Evening Standard, The Mirror, The Independent, The Daily Mail and the USA Today.
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