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Untidy state (4)

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<span class="explanation-format__ClueExplanation">'<span class="explanation-format__original">untidy state</span>' is the definition.<br/ ><span class="explanation-format__explanation">(state of being untidy)</span><br/ ><br/ >This is the entire clue.<br/ ></span>

(Other definitions for mess that I've seen before include "State of confusion or untidiness" , "Communal dining room" , "Service dining-area" , "Army canteen - shambles" , "Military dining room" .)

I've seen this clue in The Daily Mail, the Evening Standard, The Star Tribune, the King Feature Syndicate, The Telegraph, The Times, The Sun, the Newsday, the Universal, The Mirror, the USA Today, the Newsday.com and The Independent.
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