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Untidy state (4)

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<span class="explanation-format__ClueExplanation">'<span class="explanation-format__original">untidy state</span>' is the definition.<br/ ><span class="explanation-format__explanation">(state of being untidy)</span><br/ ><br/ >This is the entire clue.<br/ ></span>

(Other definitions for mess that I've seen before include "State of confusion or untidiness" , "Communal dining room" , "Service dining-area" , "Army canteen - shambles" , "Military dining room" .)

I've seen this clue in the USA Today, the King Feature Syndicate, The Daily Mail, The Times, The Telegraph, the Universal, The Star Tribune, the Newsday, the Evening Standard, The Independent, The Sun, the Newsday.com and The Mirror.
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