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Untidy state (4)

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<span class="explanation-format__ClueExplanation">'<span class="explanation-format__original">untidy state</span>' is the definition.<br/ ><span class="explanation-format__explanation">(state of being untidy)</span><br/ ><br/ >This is the entire clue.<br/ ></span>

(Other definitions for mess that I've seen before include "State of confusion or untidiness" , "Communal dining room" , "Service dining-area" , "Army canteen - shambles" , "Military dining room" .)

I've seen this clue in The Mirror, the Newsday, The Independent, the King Feature Syndicate, the Evening Standard, The Sun, The Telegraph, The Daily Mail, The Star Tribune, the USA Today, The Times, the Universal and the Newsday.com.
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