Carefully study stanza and discuss (8)

I believe the answer is:

converse

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'discuss' is the definition.
(I've seen this before)

'carefully study stanza' is the wordplay.
'carefully study' becomes 'con' (con can informally mean to study. I am not sure about the 'carefully' bit.).
'stanza' becomes 'verse' (I've seen this before).
'con'+'verse'='CONVERSE'

'and' acts as a link.

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(Other definitions for converse that I've seen before include "Discourse" , "speak" , "express thoughts and ideas?" , "Communicate with" , "discuss" .)

I've seen this clue in The Times.

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