Italian birds seen around late autumn (8)

I believe the answer is:

genovese

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'italian' is the definition.
(I know that Genovese is a more specific form of the attribute italian)

'birds seen around late autumn' is the wordplay.
'birds' becomes 'geese' (goose is a kind of bird).
'seen around' is an insertion indicator.
'late autumn' becomes 'nov' (I can't explain this - if you can you should give a lot more credence to this answer).
'geese' placed around 'nov' is 'GENOVESE'.

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