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"Not literally" (2,2,5)

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so to speak

'not literally' is the definition.
(phrase used to show one is speaking figuratively)

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(Other definitions for so to speak that I've seen before include "If one may use that expression" , "as one might say" , "In a way" .)

I've seen this clue in The New York Times.
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