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Painful experience, heartless sort of 3 (4)

Ross

I believe the answer is:

oral

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'sort of 3' is the definition.
Both the answer and definition are adjectives. Perhaps you can see an association between them that I can't see?

'painful experience heartless' is the wordplay.
'painful experience' becomes 'ordeal' (I've seen this before).
'heartless' means to remove the middle letters.
'ordeal' with its centre removed is 'ORAL'.

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(Other definitions for oral that I've seen before include "Type of examination" , "By word of mouth (4)" , "Vocal test" , "See 18" , "Using speech rather than writing" .)

I've seen this clue in The Times and The Sunday Times.
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