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Pleasant conversation rules out theft (4,8)

Ross

I believe the answer is:

fair exchange

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'rules out theft' is the definition.
I know nothing about this answer so I cannot tell whether it can be defined by this definition.

'pleasant conversation' is the wordplay.
'pleasant' becomes 'fair' (I am not sure about this - if you are sure you should believe this answer much more).
'conversation' becomes 'exchange' (exchange is a kind of conversation).
'fair'+'exchange'='FAIR EXCHANGE'

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(Another definition for fair exchange that I've seen is " It's no robbery, they say".)

I've seen this clue in The Irish Times.
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