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Trail around shops in light conversation (5,4)

Ross

I believe the answer is:

small talk

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'light conversation' is the definition.
(I've seen this before)

'trail around shops' is the wordplay.
'trail' becomes 'stalk' (I can't justify this - if you can you should believe this answer much more).
'around' means one lot of letters goes inside another.
'shops' becomes 'mall'.
'stalk' placed around 'mall' is 'SMALL-TALK'.

'in' acts as a link.

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(Other definitions for small talk that I've seen before include "Social conversation on unimportant matters" , "Unimportant prattle" , "Light conversation" , "Social chat on unimportant matters" , "Polite chit-chat" .)

I've seen this clue in The Independent.
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