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Untidy state (4)

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'untidy state' is the definition.
(state of being untidy)

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(Other definitions for mess that I've seen before include "State of confusion or untidiness" , "Communal dining room" , "Service dining-area" , "Army canteen - shambles" , "Military dining room" .)

I've seen this clue in the Newsday, The Times, the Universal, the USA Today, The Independent, The Daily Mail, the Newsday.com, The Telegraph, The Star Tribune, The Sun, the Evening Standard, the King Feature Syndicate and The Mirror.
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