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Untidy state (4)

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'untidy state' is the definition.
(state of being untidy)

This is the entire clue.

(Other definitions for mess that I've seen before include "State of confusion or untidiness" , "Communal dining room" , "Service dining-area" , "Army canteen - shambles" , "Military dining room" .)

I've seen this clue in the USA Today, The Sun, The Telegraph, the Newsday.com, the King Feature Syndicate, The Independent, the Universal, The Star Tribune, The Mirror, The Times, the Evening Standard, The Daily Mail and the Newsday.
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