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You might say mixed pesto goes into marinade (2,2,5)

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I believe the answer is:

so to speak

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'you might say mixed' is the definition.
I can't tell whether this definition defines the answer.

'pesto goes into marinade' is the wordplay.
I cannot really understand how this works, but
an anagram of 'pesto' is 'tospe' which is present in the answer.
The remaining letters 'soak' is a valid word which might be clued in a way I don't understand.
This may be the basis of the clue (or it may be nonsense).

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(Other definitions for so to speak that I've seen before include "In a way" , "as one might say" , "If one may use that expression" .)

I've seen this clue in The Times.
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